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		<title>By: Release of Bugzilla 3.6rc1 and 3.4.6 &#171; The Bugzilla Update</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1642</link>
		<dc:creator>Release of Bugzilla 3.6rc1 and 3.4.6 &#171; The Bugzilla Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up things, finish any &#8220;unfinished&#8221; features, and generally make everything suck less as much as possible. However, 3.8 is also going to include some major new UI work, thanks to Guy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Links for today. &#124; Thus spake Karthick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for today. &#124; Thus spake Karthick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Before I get the streaming widget from my blog ready, I thought I&#8217;ll manually post some of the most interesting links I have found around the web and during the day when I read. Here they are. After 5 years on this project, managing our releases and watching our download count, I can tell you from my factual experience this strange thing: all you have to do to succeed as a software project is to suck less with every release. It doesn’t matter how much competition you have, or how many buzzword-friendly features you can cram into your interface. Just suck less, and you’ll succeed. &#8211; The secret of success, suck less. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Before I get the streaming widget from my blog ready, I thought I&#8217;ll manually post some of the most interesting links I have found around the web and during the day when I read. Here they are. After 5 years on this project, managing our releases and watching our download count, I can tell you from my factual experience this strange thing: all you have to do to succeed as a software project is to suck less with every release. It doesn’t matter how much competition you have, or how many buzzword-friendly features you can cram into your interface. Just suck less, and you’ll succeed. &#8211; The secret of success, suck less. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha, it wasn&#039;t. :-) I actually didn&#039;t know Amarok had that problem too.... :-)

Anyhow, I don&#039;t want to single out any particular piece of software or its developers and insult them, I think--that&#039;s why I didn&#039;t just name the software.

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha, it wasn&#8217;t. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I actually didn&#8217;t know Amarok had that problem too&#8230;. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyhow, I don&#8217;t want to single out any particular piece of software or its developers and insult them, I think&#8211;that&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t just name the software.</p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: Ilyak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilyak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I try guessing, was the crashing software mentioned in the last paragraph amaroK? :)

It still does. Maybe once per two months (1.4.10).</description>
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<p>It still does. Maybe once per two months (1.4.10).</p>
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		<title>By: Best of the Web – August &#124; KolayOnline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of the Web – August &#124; KolayOnline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Patterson Communications</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patterson Communications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 05:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patterson Communications went Through similar ups and downs through its inital startup 10 years ago. Great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patterson Communications went Through similar ups and downs through its inital startup 10 years ago. Great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an interesting observation! (About Windows 7 and Snow Leopard that is.) I hope that it gets heard by more software companies too! :-)

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting observation! (About Windows 7 and Snow Leopard that is.) I hope that it gets heard by more software companies too! <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: Francois Cottet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois Cottet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Max for this sharing. You explained it, and it looks so obvious now... 

Actually I guess that people at Apple went to the same conclusion when they decided to announce the next version of their OS with 0 new feature. The only moto is &quot;more robust, faster, easier&quot;. But, as advertised, Snow Leopard contains the same feature as the previous Leopard version.

And Microsoft is more or less going in the same direction, presenting Windows 7 as a &quot;Vista without bugs&quot;, isn&#039;t it?

&quot;Suck less&quot;, I am now crossing my fingers, hoping this can be heard by more software companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Max for this sharing. You explained it, and it looks so obvious now&#8230; </p>
<p>Actually I guess that people at Apple went to the same conclusion when they decided to announce the next version of their OS with 0 new feature. The only moto is &#8220;more robust, faster, easier&#8221;. But, as advertised, Snow Leopard contains the same feature as the previous Leopard version.</p>
<p>And Microsoft is more or less going in the same direction, presenting Windows 7 as a &#8220;Vista without bugs&#8221;, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>&#8220;Suck less&#8221;, I am now crossing my fingers, hoping this can be heard by more software companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Cults of Done, Evolution, and Fun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cults of Done, Evolution, and Fun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] itself a sort of on-going evolution. Ideas mutate, they&#8217;re cloned and modified, the ones that suck less survive and get used by other [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Vox Pop Log &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Week’s Wunderkammer</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator>The Vox Pop Log &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Week’s Wunderkammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Secret of Success: Suck Less &#8211; Every once and awhile a piece comes along and states a simple truth so elegantly, so matter-of-factly, that its hard not to share. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: blog.places.ae</title>
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		<dc:creator>blog.places.ae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Keep those suggestions for improvement. We&#8217;re just trying to be better, or just to suck less. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing, isn&#039;t it? :-)

You&#039;re welcome. Thanks for the great comment. :-)

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing, isn&#8217;t it? <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome. Thanks for the great comment. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Castillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Castillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool :-)

I also think that around that time people were getting wiser about software engineering, and seeking out tracking systems. There was beginning to be more focus on team engineering methodologies (don&#039;t get me started) and there was an in creased demand for tracking products. So when the commercial solutions came out to fill this need ... the demand for open source systems like Bugzilla went up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I also think that around that time people were getting wiser about software engineering, and seeking out tracking systems. There was beginning to be more focus on team engineering methodologies (don&#8217;t get me started) and there was an in creased demand for tracking products. So when the commercial solutions came out to fill this need &#8230; the demand for open source systems like Bugzilla went up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, too true.  New releases of software have a near monopoly on crushed hopes and dreams.  I often marvel about how big companies can come out with upgrades that are consistently less user-friendly than the older versions.  It&#039;s amazing they don&#039;t go bankrupt.  Thanks for the great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, too true.  New releases of software have a near monopoly on crushed hopes and dreams.  I often marvel about how big companies can come out with upgrades that are consistently less user-friendly than the older versions.  It&#8217;s amazing they don&#8217;t go bankrupt.  Thanks for the great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s cool! :-) Interesting to think about it in terms of other products, too. :-)

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s cool! <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Interesting to think about it in terms of other products, too. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MIke Gil</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIke Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Max-
A decade ago, I worked with a product (that shall remain nameless, for obvious reasons) from a software development team who was said to have this as their mission statement (&quot;To Suck Less&quot;) on the grounds that it incorporated:
a.  great competitive thinking: &quot;suck less than the other guys suck,&quot; and 
b.  principles of continuous improvement: &quot;suck less than we sucked yesterday.&quot;

Your vector of thought appears slightly different (i.e. you only measured your suckitude against your own prior releases), but the advice is timeless.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Max-<br />
A decade ago, I worked with a product (that shall remain nameless, for obvious reasons) from a software development team who was said to have this as their mission statement (&#8221;To Suck Less&#8221;) on the grounds that it incorporated:<br />
a.  great competitive thinking: &#8220;suck less than the other guys suck,&#8221; and<br />
b.  principles of continuous improvement: &#8220;suck less than we sucked yesterday.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your vector of thought appears slightly different (i.e. you only measured your suckitude against your own prior releases), but the advice is timeless.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear better things about Windows 7 than Vista. I guess we&#039;ll see! :-) I&#039;m a Linux user, myself, though. :-)

Well, one thing that really helped us with Bugzilla was that I did a survey: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Survey

Also, some students from Carnegie-Mellon University did a usability study on Bugzilla and came up with a lot of really great results.

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear better things about Windows 7 than Vista. I guess we&#8217;ll see! <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m a Linux user, myself, though. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, one thing that really helped us with Bugzilla was that I did a survey: <a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Survey" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Survey</a></p>
<p>Also, some students from Carnegie-Mellon University did a usability study on Bugzilla and came up with a lot of really great results.</p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, good point. :-)

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, good point. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Pinochet (spinochet) 's status on Thursday, 13-Aug-09 19:45:36 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Pinochet (spinochet) 's status on Thursday, 13-Aug-09 19:45:36 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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		<dc:creator>Daily del.icio.us for August 4th through August 13th &#124; Vinny Carpenter's blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Code Simplicity &#187; The Secret of Success: Suck Less &#8211; All you have to do to succeed in software is to consistently suck less with every release. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hassan Ibraheem (hassanibraheem) 's status on Thursday, 13-Aug-09 11:18:52 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hassan Ibraheem (hassanibraheem) 's status on Thursday, 13-Aug-09 11:18:52 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Don Kori Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Kori Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just reminds me of the sucking in windows vista...
I hope windows 7 sucks less...
But still i have a question....
How do u establish a sucking issue...seeing that people are different...someone may think it sucks while another thinks otherwise except in very obvious cases like crashes and stuff...??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just reminds me of the sucking in windows vista&#8230;<br />
I hope windows 7 sucks less&#8230;<br />
But still i have a question&#8230;.<br />
How do u establish a sucking issue&#8230;seeing that people are different&#8230;someone may think it sucks while another thinks otherwise except in very obvious cases like crashes and stuff&#8230;??</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Garvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Garvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just made a very strong argument for writing a unit test every time there&#039;s a regression.</description>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much. :-) Yeah, security and stability are paramount to us, too. I&#039;m always really surprised when there are products that just have endless security holes, because it&#039;s really not that hard to catch and patch them, if you&#039;re diligent and follow certain basic practices.

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Yeah, security and stability are paramount to us, too. I&#8217;m always really surprised when there are products that just have endless security holes, because it&#8217;s really not that hard to catch and patch them, if you&#8217;re diligent and follow certain basic practices.</p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: KCF</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1108</link>
		<dc:creator>KCF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, stability and security are paramount.  I do enjoy flashy stuff now and then, but my workstation _must_ _not_ _crash_, _ever_, and it must be secure-- so I use OpenBSD.  And for bug-tracking, I use Bugzilla.  I didn&#039;t know there was anything else ;]  Thanks for all the progressively better releases.  It&#039;s definitely appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, stability and security are paramount.  I do enjoy flashy stuff now and then, but my workstation _must_ _not_ _crash_, _ever_, and it must be secure&#8211; so I use OpenBSD.  And for bug-tracking, I use Bugzilla.  I didn&#8217;t know there was anything else ;]  Thanks for all the progressively better releases.  It&#8217;s definitely appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1107</link>
		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Firefox is an example of software that has increased it&#039;s suckitude over time.  

They changed their SOAP model between 2 and 3. https://developer.mozilla.org/en/SOAP_in_Gecko-based_Browsers 

This has a major impact on software I would be using with Firefox, and why I&#039;ve nearly completely switched over to Chrome at work.

Firefox 3.5 has a major load time issue that seems unlikely to be resolved in the short term: http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2009/07/workaround-for-firefox-3-5-slow-startups-on-windows/

And those students of history would realize that the real browser that has been innovative, and sucks less with each release -- Opera.  That is if you read their press releases and news articles and such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Firefox is an example of software that has increased it&#8217;s suckitude over time.  </p>
<p>They changed their SOAP model between 2 and 3. <a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en/SOAP_in_Gecko-based_Browsers" rel="nofollow">https://developer.mozilla.org/en/SOAP_in_Gecko-based_Browsers</a> </p>
<p>This has a major impact on software I would be using with Firefox, and why I&#8217;ve nearly completely switched over to Chrome at work.</p>
<p>Firefox 3.5 has a major load time issue that seems unlikely to be resolved in the short term: <a href="http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2009/07/workaround-for-firefox-3-5-slow-startups-on-windows/" rel="nofollow">http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2009/07/workaround-for-firefox-3-5-slow-startups-on-windows/</a></p>
<p>And those students of history would realize that the real browser that has been innovative, and sucks less with each release &#8212; Opera.  That is if you read their press releases and news articles and such.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like another -zilla I know, called Filezilla. It just gets better and better with every microscopic point release.</description>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brian. Yeah, of course buying decisions (and product installation decisions) are features based. That&#039;s what I pointed out about first-time users. That&#039;s how you get new users. :-) But if you just keep failing to suck less, you start shedding users faster than you can pick up new users, provided that there&#039;s any available alternative to your product. (Witness MySpace, for example.) And if you retain users, then your installation count &lt;em&gt;increases&lt;/em&gt;. I mean, that&#039;s the basics. There are probably more subtle effects from sucking less, too, that might generate good word-of-mouth, good press, etc.

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brian. Yeah, of course buying decisions (and product installation decisions) are features based. That&#8217;s what I pointed out about first-time users. That&#8217;s how you get new users. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But if you just keep failing to suck less, you start shedding users faster than you can pick up new users, provided that there&#8217;s any available alternative to your product. (Witness MySpace, for example.) And if you retain users, then your installation count <em>increases</em>. I mean, that&#8217;s the basics. There are probably more subtle effects from sucking less, too, that might generate good word-of-mouth, good press, etc.</p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, &quot;buying decisions&quot; isn&#039;t applicable here.  Perhaps I should say &quot;product installations&quot; in this context.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1102</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a possible message problem in this article.

You mention &quot;...with every release, our download numbers kept going up. And always significantly–30-50% more...&quot;.  In the for-profit world those would be called customer wins, or something similar.

Later on though, you say &quot;As long as you consistently suck less with every release, you will retain most of your users...&quot;.  That&#039;s customer retention.

Your thesis about sucking less seems to me primarily relevant to customer retention, and not particularly relevant to customer wins.

How do you explain your growth rates with a relatively modest, incrementalist strategy like sucking less?  Were you winning converts from other products?  There was no attempt in your article to support this idea.  Perhaps the market overall was growing rapidly and you merely shared in that.

I&#039;m not suggesting that you are wrong, but I&#039;m not sure your thesis is strong enough to stand on it&#039;s own either.  From a personal perspective I like the idea of sucking less.  However lots of personal and corporate buying decisions are features driven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a possible message problem in this article.</p>
<p>You mention &#8220;&#8230;with every release, our download numbers kept going up. And always significantly–30-50% more&#8230;&#8221;.  In the for-profit world those would be called customer wins, or something similar.</p>
<p>Later on though, you say &#8220;As long as you consistently suck less with every release, you will retain most of your users&#8230;&#8221;.  That&#8217;s customer retention.</p>
<p>Your thesis about sucking less seems to me primarily relevant to customer retention, and not particularly relevant to customer wins.</p>
<p>How do you explain your growth rates with a relatively modest, incrementalist strategy like sucking less?  Were you winning converts from other products?  There was no attempt in your article to support this idea.  Perhaps the market overall was growing rapidly and you merely shared in that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that you are wrong, but I&#8217;m not sure your thesis is strong enough to stand on it&#8217;s own either.  From a personal perspective I like the idea of sucking less.  However lots of personal and corporate buying decisions are features driven.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1101</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think Firefox 1.0 sucked WAY less than the browsers that came before it.

From the user&#039;s perspective, Vista sucked because Microsoft took so long to release it that there were serious compatibility issues. When you release a new OS every two years, ISVs keep up. When you release one every seven years, people get complacent and think that they can use NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 APIs forever. :-) I agree that in a lot of ways, Vista was better. But Windows 7 clearly sucks a lot less than Vista, from reports (in fact, this is pretty much the main thing that I hear about it), and it&#039;s getting much better press. So in this case, sucking less and getting good press could be intimately connected. :-)

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think Firefox 1.0 sucked WAY less than the browsers that came before it.</p>
<p>From the user&#8217;s perspective, Vista sucked because Microsoft took so long to release it that there were serious compatibility issues. When you release a new OS every two years, ISVs keep up. When you release one every seven years, people get complacent and think that they can use NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 APIs forever. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I agree that in a lot of ways, Vista was better. But Windows 7 clearly sucks a lot less than Vista, from reports (in fact, this is pretty much the main thing that I hear about it), and it&#8217;s getting much better press. So in this case, sucking less and getting good press could be intimately connected. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1100</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good article and I have to agree with your main point, it applies I think to most of the successful applications out there...sorta. Take firefox for example. When it first was envisioned as Phoenix it was designed as a lightweight, unbloated, standard supporting forward thinking browser. For quite a while it WAS a bloated, slow, no real advancements browser but it was becoming ever more popular. Even now, I&#039;d still say its pretty bloated (and still seems to memleak like crazy compared to other options) for what it does. Yet, its crazy popular.

Or, to an extreme take Windows Vista. It was a necessary rework, far more forward thinking than previous Windows OSs yet because of a very rough release (but when has any major, massive new os release been &quot;smooth?&quot;) it was brutalized by many of the &quot;knowledgeable&quot; IT people even though its massively improved with each patch and SP. Now, Win7 (which is Vista SP2.5 really) is getting great press and reviews. So, is it always fixing bugs and making it suck &quot;less&quot; that wins users or good press? 

Both work I think. Sorry if this rambles a bit, been a long day ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good article and I have to agree with your main point, it applies I think to most of the successful applications out there&#8230;sorta. Take firefox for example. When it first was envisioned as Phoenix it was designed as a lightweight, unbloated, standard supporting forward thinking browser. For quite a while it WAS a bloated, slow, no real advancements browser but it was becoming ever more popular. Even now, I&#8217;d still say its pretty bloated (and still seems to memleak like crazy compared to other options) for what it does. Yet, its crazy popular.</p>
<p>Or, to an extreme take Windows Vista. It was a necessary rework, far more forward thinking than previous Windows OSs yet because of a very rough release (but when has any major, massive new os release been &#8220;smooth?&#8221;) it was brutalized by many of the &#8220;knowledgeable&#8221; IT people even though its massively improved with each patch and SP. Now, Win7 (which is Vista SP2.5 really) is getting great press and reviews. So, is it always fixing bugs and making it suck &#8220;less&#8221; that wins users or good press? </p>
<p>Both work I think. Sorry if this rambles a bit, been a long day <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I buy it.  All software sucks, and therefore, there are very few programs I use for which I&#039;m not looking for better alternatives.  The ones I stick with tend to be big complex ones for which the problem space is pretty well explored, so I can be fairly confident that there&#039;s nothing out there that actually does suck less, like text editors and web browsers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I buy it.  All software sucks, and therefore, there are very few programs I use for which I&#8217;m not looking for better alternatives.  The ones I stick with tend to be big complex ones for which the problem space is pretty well explored, so I can be fairly confident that there&#8217;s nothing out there that actually does suck less, like text editors and web browsers.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1098</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! :-)

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, that&#039;s really interesting! I can see how that could be! :-)

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, that&#8217;s really interesting! I can see how that could be! <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: mofino</title>
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		<dc:creator>mofino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best advice I&#039;ve heard in a long time.</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what little I&#039;ve studied of the auto industry this is the very same tactic that japanese car manufacturers used to completely dominate the auto industry.</description>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/suck-less/comment-page-1/#comment-1094</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the author, so you&#039;re welcome to just say &quot;you&quot;, if you&#039;d like. :-)

Perhaps it is obvious to you and to me, but sometimes it&#039;s actually the &lt;em&gt;emphasis&lt;/em&gt; of importance that matters in data, not just the existence of the data itself.

As far as Firefox goes, I&#039;d say that also really just took the Mozilla Suite and took a lot of the sucking out of it, and all of the sudden it was enormously popular. I&#039;d say that &quot;making the browser suck less&quot; may have even been one of the main design goals of Firefox (though of course stated differently, or not stated at all), as somebody who, while not actually involved in Firefox development, was generally around the Mozilla community during the time of its development.

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the author, so you&#8217;re welcome to just say &#8220;you&#8221;, if you&#8217;d like. <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Perhaps it is obvious to you and to me, but sometimes it&#8217;s actually the <em>emphasis</em> of importance that matters in data, not just the existence of the data itself.</p>
<p>As far as Firefox goes, I&#8217;d say that also really just took the Mozilla Suite and took a lot of the sucking out of it, and all of the sudden it was enormously popular. I&#8217;d say that &#8220;making the browser suck less&#8221; may have even been one of the main design goals of Firefox (though of course stated differently, or not stated at all), as somebody who, while not actually involved in Firefox development, was generally around the Mozilla community during the time of its development.</p>
<p>-Max</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kanat-Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Kanat-Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. You&#039;re welcome! :-D Thank for for the nice comment!! :-)

-Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. You&#8217;re welcome! <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  Thank for for the nice comment!! <img src='http://www.codesimplicity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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